Stupak: “…a pretty sad commentary on the state of the Democratic party.”


National Review Online has a very revealing interview with Bart Stupak:

Sitting in an airport, on his way home to Michigan, Rep. Bart Stupak, a pro-life Democrat, is chagrined. “They’re ignoring me,” he says, in a phone interview with National Review Online. “That’s their strategy now. The House Democratic leaders think they have the votes to pass the Senate’s health-care bill without us. At this point, there is no doubt that they’ve been able to peel off one or two of my twelve. And even if they don’t have the votes, it’s been made clear to us that they won’t insert our language on the abortion issue.”

According to Stupak, that group of twelve pro-life House Democrats — the “Stupak dozen” — has privately agreed for months to vote ‘no’ on the Senate’s health-care bill if federal funding for abortion is included in the final legislative language. Now, in the debate’s final hours, Stupak says the other eleven are coming under “enormous” political pressure from both the White House and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D., Calif.). “I am a definite ‘no’ vote,” he says. “I didn’t cave. The others are having both of their arms twisted, and we’re all getting pounded by our traditional Democratic supporters, like unions.”

Stupak says he also doesn’t trust the “Slaughter solution,” a legislative maneuver being bandied about on Capitol Hill as a way to pass the Senate bill in the House without actually voting on it. “Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me,” he says. “I don’t have a warm-and-fuzzy feeling about what I’m hearing.”

Stupak notes that his negotiations with House Democratic leaders in recent days have been revealing. “I really believe that the Democratic leadership is simply unwilling to change its stance,” he says. “Their position says that women, especially those without means available, should have their abortions covered.” The arguments they have made to him in recent deliberations, he adds, “are a pretty sad commentary on the state of the Democratic party.”

What are Democratic leaders saying? “If you pass the Stupak amendment, more children will be born, and therefore it will cost us millions more. That’s one of the arguments I’ve been hearing,” Stupak says. “Money is their hang-up. Is this how we now value life in America? If money is the issue — come on, we can find room in the budget. This is life we’re talking about.”

If Obamacare passes, Stupak says, it could signal the end of any meaningful role for pro-life Democrats within their own party. “It would be very, very hard for someone who is a right-to-life Democrat to run for office,” he says. “I won’t leave the party. I’m more comfortable here and still believe in a role within it for the right-to-life cause, but this bill will make being a pro-life Democrat much more difficult. They don’t even want to debate this issue. We’ll probably have to wait until the Republicans take back the majority to fix this.”

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13 Responses to Stupak: “…a pretty sad commentary on the state of the Democratic party.”

  1. daledog says:

    Yet he wants to remain a democrat. My Irish Catholic family left the dems along time ago because of abortion. Not hard to do.

  2. Joe Hargrave says:

    Just another reason I’m disgusted with the unions today… and after everything the Church did to legitimize them…

  3. Elaine Krewer says:

    The pro-life movement is much too important to be tied completely to one political party and its fortunes. We desperately need a pro-life presence in BOTH parties.

    Although I am basically Republican (largely because of the abortion issue) and sympathize with those who feel pro-life Catholics have no business voting for any Democrat or belonging to the Democratic Party, where would we be right now without those critical pro-life Dems like Stupak? Republicans have NO power to stop this bill given how far they are in the minority right now.

    If Stupak survives his primary challenge and all or most of his Democrat allies survive what looks more and more like an epic mid-term electoral disaster for the Democrats, it MAY just convince the Democrats that they can no longer afford to ignore or diss pro-lifers.

  4. Jim says:

    Elaine, your comment about the mid-term elections implies rational thought by the Dem leadership. I firmly believe that Obama and Pelosi don’t care about the mid terms which is why they are so hell bent on ramming this through. As Rep Paul Ryan has stated this is not about policy, it’s about philosophy about who should have control over your life. Obama/Pelosi/Ried are just pawns in this, it is being driven by the Malthusian population controllers who bought and paid for Obama’s presidency.

    This comment in the article says it all…

    “Democratic leaders saying… “If you pass the Stupak amendment, more children will be born, and therefore it will cost us millions more.”

    Then there’s this gem from Pelosi

    Nancy Pelosi says Contraception Will Reduce Costs Help Economy

  5. cccf says:

    read yesterday’s blog (3/12/10) at about Nancy Pelosi’s Cailifornia setting precednt for National Federal funding of all abortions in America
    Juan O’Cal;lahan

  6. Sydney Carton says:

    It is just disgusting how one political party has been so overwhelmed with the evil of abortion. It’s frightening to see basically half, or even more, of the country involved with that madness. Now I know many of the sane Germans felt in the 1930s.

  7. Gabriel Austin says:

    Not far from the NAZI “Leben nicht des Lebens werth” [Life not worth life].

    It was echoed by Justice Ginsberg’s remark that Roe v Wade was meant to reduce undesirable populations. It is curious for so prominent a Jewess to say this.

  8. Jim says:

    Gabriel Austin Says: “It is curious for so prominent a Jewess to say this.”

    No surprise when you are part of the “elite”. If the shoe were on the other foot she’s be squealing like a pig. Situational ethics – Machiavelli is proud I’m sure

  9. T. Shaw says:

    I’m pretty sure you won’t get into Heaven if you vote Democratic.

  10. Donald R. McClarey says:

    I think God at the particular judgment will have a few more important matters to discuss with us than our party allegiance. (My paternal grandfather however T. Shaw would have agreed with you. He was a poor shoemaker all his life, but he had no use for the Democrat party.)

  11. Andy K. says:

    The man is a hero. I’d be thrilled to campaign for him – maybe I can use some of my summer time to take a “vacation” in Mackinac and volunteer for his campaign 😛

  12. Elaine Krewer says:

    Update from NRO: Stupak has clarified his remarks somewhat. He says the people who cite cost as an argument against his amendment have not been the Democratic LEADERS but some of the other members.

    However, the cost argument is being made (though not necessarily by Pelosi herself) so his basic point is still valid.

  13. cccf says:

    see rebuttal to Dr. Patrick Whelan’s (in New England Journal of Medicine) assertion that Massachusetts’ Commonwealth-Care new statewide health plan has actually been the cause for REDUCING abortions. Harvard Medical School and Mass-General Hospital Dept of Peiatrics participated in Dr. Whelan’s flawed conclusion.
    Juan O’Callahan

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